tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post4352960871673692567..comments2024-03-22T03:49:11.644-07:00Comments on Life With Horses: My Take on Horse TrippingCindy Halehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06826221923988198322noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-7559327144308688092016-03-21T11:44:14.032-07:002016-03-21T11:44:14.032-07:00I understand Mangana for catching a dangerous, str...I understand Mangana for catching a dangerous, strong, full-speed horse that needs to be captured. It makes sense. If one needs to practice the technique, there needs to be a simulation created. It probably takes skill to rope the front legs of a horse. I don't believe it should be a sport. People who play football get to choose to do that and they know to deal with the consequences. If one was able to ask a horse if it would like to participate in the activity where it would be tripped to a halt, my logical guess is that it would respond with a resounding "NO!". If you say a horse seems to enjoy the "sport" and is challenged by the "sport" you are grasping at logic quite feebly. I'm not going to look at videos as all of that is pointless because they can be picked for whatever side you're on. I agree that the Steeplechase needs to end, too. This argument seems illogical to me. I think catching a horse by it's front legs should only be practiced in very limited cases out of necessity, not entertainment. That's my take...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-26535819606952591692010-02-19T04:40:12.331-08:002010-02-19T04:40:12.331-08:00Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_...Watch this video:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZyKv-bhhtA<br />Randy JanssenAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-23944051345955743972009-12-03T11:47:15.988-08:002009-12-03T11:47:15.988-08:00To Paul and Eric: If you have proof of horses bein...To Paul and Eric: If you have proof of horses being seriously injured in mangana, post it here. If you don't I guess we can assume you have none and are nothing but mouth.Randy Janssenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06130003278943581803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-50768170098668957412009-11-20T22:43:44.089-08:002009-11-20T22:43:44.089-08:00Randy Janssen is God's gift to animal lovers e...Randy Janssen is God's gift to animal lovers everywhere. May I suggest that everyone on this blog forward the YouTube video (narrated by Mr. Janssen, and mentioned in his most recent post) to every pro-animal legislator across the country and in Washington. His stupid video and the accompanying dialogue (which I'm betting he wrote) should help to stop this cruelty nationwide. Nine states have now banned this cruelty: California (the first, in 1994), New Mexico, Texas, Oklahoma, Illinois, Maine, Florida, Nebraska (2008) and Arizona (2009). Nebraska, to its credit, also banned the charreada's equally "steer tailing" event ("colas"). The steer's horns, tail and back may be broken, and horses sometimes break their legs when the steers run the wrong way. Both should be banned. Neither is sanctioned by any rodeo association, and neither is a standard ranching practice anywhere in the U.S. These events follow the Mexican migrant workers, and are not occurring in Tennessee, Georgia, Arkansas, the Carolinas, and probably elsewhere. We should be passing bans BEFORE this cruelty becomes established in any/all states.<br /><br />Cheers,<br />Eric Mills, coordinator<br />ACTION FOR ANIMALS<br />Oakland<br /> afa@mcn.orgUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17115105941819770025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-78707138830655153912009-11-16T15:06:07.527-08:002009-11-16T15:06:07.527-08:00Watch this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u...Watch this video<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_pKdfdkiIoRandy Janssenhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-54486311148661793042009-08-15T09:19:10.064-07:002009-08-15T09:19:10.064-07:00If you have proof of the dangers of mangana, post ...If you have proof of the dangers of mangana, post it here.Randy Janssenhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-19820624020723246712009-08-13T17:28:08.834-07:002009-08-13T17:28:08.834-07:00Randy: 1. This is not your blog- save the soap box...Randy: 1. This is not your blog- save the soap box preaching for your own website. 2. Please use question marks when asking even hypothetical questions. 3. Watch the slaughterhouse comments. I have a young gelding that happens to be almost completely blind. He's very talented and has a lot of potential to do more. I do gymkhana with him. If a crazy young horse can trust a teenager enough to run full speed ahead in the dark, every other horse tagged as "useless" because they're not perfect should have a second chance, too. 4. You are a good debater, but you're very repetative. You are succeeding in making the same points over and over again in a calm fashion that does nothing but anger everyone else and cause them to have a burning hatred of you. You will never succeed in changing anyone's opinion. Sorry, but here you're outnumbered. Go fight elsewhere.Angelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-5119979616377373322009-07-14T14:46:18.274-07:002009-07-14T14:46:18.274-07:00Looked at the shilohacres web page, did not see an...Looked at the shilohacres web page, did not see any proof of the dangers of mangana. The fact is, very, very, very few horses are hurt in mangana. If you think you have proof otherwise, post it here.Randyhttp://legalizehorestripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-578218947404102352009-07-14T09:48:16.136-07:002009-07-14T09:48:16.136-07:00Some of these horses were used for tripping
http:/...Some of these horses were used for tripping<br />http://www.shilohacres.org/page10.htmlTaylornoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-2767602193715110012009-07-14T09:44:14.845-07:002009-07-14T09:44:14.845-07:00It doesn't matter if the horse gets up and tro...It doesn't matter if the horse gets up and trots away!!!! They can still be injured!!! Videos are very blurry! I need to see pictures to believe you and also vet records and then I would believe you! Get a life and stop wasting your time assholeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-10837122724967404122009-07-10T10:19:16.734-07:002009-07-10T10:19:16.734-07:00It seems that the best the anti-mangana and animal...It seems that the best the anti-mangana and animal rights people can do is criticize my grammar and spelling. Where is you proof of the dangers of mangana. Post it here, link it here. I have not rambled, I have posted and linked video tape proof of the how mangana is safe. In all of the videos, the horses get up and trot away. The fact is, very, very, very, few animals are seriously injured in mangana. I understand your frustration when all you have is rhetoric.Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-16144066107235937302009-07-09T16:36:27.768-07:002009-07-09T16:36:27.768-07:00Randy, besides your misguided ramblings on the vir...Randy, besides your misguided ramblings on the virtues of horse tripping, I'm really annoyed by your use of the word "then" when you actually mean "than." PLEASE, for God's sake, use the correct word! Who knows. It just might make you and your argument seem more intelligent. <br /><br />Then again, it probably won't.Courtneynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-73255015819387234762009-07-08T08:09:21.069-07:002009-07-08T08:09:21.069-07:00To Anonymous: What proof do you want, I have 240 v...To Anonymous: What proof do you want, I have 240 videos of mangana on my web page where the horses get up and trot away. I have seen over 300 take downs where the horses get up and trot away. I have seen one horse seriouly injured in mangana and have heard of another. That is less then 1%. In the Omak Suicide Race 18 horses have been killed in the last 15 years. In steeplechase at least 25%of the horses do not finish. By the way none of the horses choose to be in any of these races. That is because animals do not get to choose.Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-18216820358697042772009-07-07T15:13:40.278-07:002009-07-07T15:13:40.278-07:00If you can give me proof that very few horses are ...If you can give me proof that very few horses are injured I will believe you. High school football players choose to take that risk while horses are forced to. Show me a 400 year old Charro. Go get a life and stop trying to force this onto people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-84386344981943467992009-07-07T14:06:16.976-07:002009-07-07T14:06:16.976-07:00To Anonymous: Now you know why you rope horses by ...To Anonymous: Now you know why you rope horses by the legs. If you rope it around the neck, you can kill it. If roping by the legs is acceptable and in some cases necessary, then how do you maintain the knowledge. The Charros have done this for 400 years in charreadas. They do it full well knowing the dangers to both the Charro and the animal. Of course there is risk involved, but there are risk involved in every sporting event, be it High School football, where children are killed every year or steeplechase. The question is, are the risk acceptable. The Charros believe they are, and are willing to prove it by a scientific study of mangana. That is because very, very, very few animals are seriously injured in mangana.Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-71942437024541562682009-07-07T10:03:03.563-07:002009-07-07T10:03:03.563-07:00I don't care what color you are!!! It still do...I don't care what color you are!!! It still doesnt make it any better for a cowboy to do it! Those are not large dangerous animals! They are COLTS that were put in that arena to trip. Roping by the neck is obviously dangerous. At a barn close to me there was a horse roped by the neck. It broke the horses neck and had to be put down. If you knew anything about horses you would realize that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-67106223767326565572009-07-07T04:17:44.776-07:002009-07-07T04:17:44.776-07:00To Anonymous:
Watch this Video
Tohttp://www.youtub...To Anonymous:<br />Watch this Video<br />Tohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v7djtzbckE<br />Cowboys do it too. It is a properr way to catch large dangerous animalsRandyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-58875429540861265142009-07-06T18:06:20.967-07:002009-07-06T18:06:20.967-07:00Please stop trying to make me think Steeplechase i...Please stop trying to make me think Steeplechase is bad!!! I never once said I love to steeplechase and I still believe it is safer that mangana! I dont care what you say because you will not change my mind. Stop acting so desperate to make people think mangana is good. Get a life and do something worthwhile. All you are doing is angering other people who will be less likely to give this a chance. I know that no matter what I say it wont change you and keep you from watching or doing this crap.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-50587192003566737782009-07-06T17:09:51.652-07:002009-07-06T17:09:51.652-07:00to Anonymous: Watch this video
http://www.youtube....to Anonymous: Watch this video<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCCA8nB96KURandyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-44145471074053152009-07-06T04:44:54.474-07:002009-07-06T04:44:54.474-07:00To Anonymous: Would you please explain the purpose...To Anonymous: Would you please explain the purpose of having up to 20 horses race around a track taking jumps along the way, when you know that between 25 to 50 percent will fall and be battered when it is landed on by other competing horses. What is the purpose of forcing a horse to jump solid barriers where it will do a 180 degree flip if it misses. As to how many horses are seriously injured in mangana, the Charros are so confident of the small numbers, that they have made the Charro Challenge. To do a scientific study to find out the truth. It is the Animal Rights people who do not accept.Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-53142313678839661032009-07-05T15:15:11.886-07:002009-07-05T15:15:11.886-07:001. Mangana is pointless unless there is some crazy...1. Mangana is pointless unless there is some crazy runaway horse. Even if very few are injured (which I suspect is incorrect) those few injuries could have been prevented. If you cared at all for animals, you would realize that.<br />2. Steeplechase and Cross country are completly different than horse tripping. First of all, I dont participate in them. Also, the horses aren't purposfully thrown to their feet, they are jumped over jumps. Horses in those sports are usually well cared for. That is very ignorant to compare Horse Tripping to Steeplechase and Cross Country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-19750092985882075322009-07-05T14:54:10.527-07:002009-07-05T14:54:10.527-07:00Two questions for Anonymous. 1. Why is mangana, cr...Two questions for Anonymous. 1. Why is mangana, cruel when very, very, very few horse are seriously injured when they are used in mangana? 2. What do you think about Steeplechase and Cross Country?Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-26890334276833369162009-07-05T13:32:00.243-07:002009-07-05T13:32:00.243-07:00I looked on your website and it makes a few good p...I looked on your website and it makes a few good points. If you want to do Horse Tripping when a crazy stallion is going towards children, I have NO problem with that. I just believe it is wrong to do that for a sport. And just because I believe horse tripping is wrong does not mean I am a racist. I dont care what color you are, of you are cruel to animals I am not going to like you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-53918711250628570212009-07-05T13:18:32.358-07:002009-07-05T13:18:32.358-07:00Instead of cruelly killing the horse in the slaugh...Instead of cruelly killing the horse in the slaughterhouse, wouldn't it be a lot nicer to put them to sleep? Also, I have a dog and cat. Their food contains no horse in it. I there was, it would say Animal by product in the ingredients. Horse meat is illegal in the US. That may not stop some people, but I use all natural dog and cat food. I know it may seem like Horse Tripping may be just as safe as other horse sports, the horses in those sports are usually well cared for. The Horse Tripping horses are used in mangana and then they are off to the slaughterhouse. I am not going to argue with you because I know I can not change your mind but you should try to be more open minded and consider for once that maybe this might hurt this horse. I own two horses and though they may be huge, horses are extremely delicate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6817758588420976932.post-76750909489650848902009-07-05T11:23:16.541-07:002009-07-05T11:23:16.541-07:00The anti-slaughterhouse movement mystifies me. Wha...The anti-slaughterhouse movement mystifies me. What do you do with horses that do not make the cut. They are lame or blind. They just are not good enough to work. What do you do with horses when there is not enough food to feed them. The slaughterhouse is a lot better way to die then starvation. You probably are using or own something that has a horse product in it. If you own house pets, you absolutely have used something made from horse. The French and most Asians consider horse meat a delicacy. Just another form of protein. The point of the video is that mangana or what you call horse tripping is no more dangerous to horses then most equine events and it is less dangerous to them then some, like Steeplechase and Cross Country. Therefore it should not be banned.Randyhttp://legalizehorsetripping.comnoreply@blogger.com